Market deals off topic

[Hunter]

nice

[mattdude]

Serpent Staff+mana/8 for 1b. Sold 4b.

[darasajjj]

mana in exc is best options for sm's ?

ps. good deal, mf ;D

[mattdude]

Yeah I only fund that out about a week ago^^ People pay alot for a nice staff+mana. So I'm on the search for one +Mana+Life

[darasajjj]

and the best one would be mana+speed right?

[Hunter]

i preffer one +speed+xdmg . and a pend with same op can be very good.

now best option is +lvl+speed , cheap and good , used with a pend +lvl or +mana is great.

[darasajjj]

by best i mean the most expensive

[Hunter]

yes , but xdmg+speed is good and expensive too.

[Row(cito/lex/tard)]

all that 90% dw want (noobs) is staff +speed+mana.

[Elminster]

darasajjj said:

and the best one would be mana+speed right?

no.. most wanted is xdmg+mana/8... +speed is not good for afk.. more speed less dmg means faster mana wasting. A pendant xdmg+mana/8 can reach over 100b a speed+mana is around 32 ~40b.

The best option for active training, depends on ur gear... if u have 2 or more items xdmg or an ancient set the best item, (pendant or staff) is xdmg+speed. But if u only have one item with option.. lvl/20 beats xdmg if u got enough lvl. 2 pieces lvl/20 are good too. I think this is true for all classes but not sure at bk, for sm i'm pretty sure it's true since i already tested it and made some math.Only way xdmg is better than lvl/20 is if it hits 2 times in 10 hits, so u need at least 20% xdmg. Even so 2 lvl/20 at lvl 300 comes close to 2 items xdmg. It's not that big dif of dmg. But with ancient set and 2 items x dmg.. there is no doubt.. xdmg will rox.. with anubis u'll have 35% xdmg means in 10 hits u'll do 3 ~4 hits xdmg.. that's a lot .

[Hunter]

yes , it`s permanent dmg and it`s so much cheaper.

[Piggles]

Some day i'll do my own tests of lvl/20 vs. 2%. Im hard to convince lol

[Hunter]

2% may be very good for u . u have high dmg , in my case is 6 dmg lower than lvl

[Piggles]

I was thinking that it might be.... Do you know if the 2% is added to the dmg in my stats, or is it applied to my actual dmg to mobs?

I think lvl/20 is added to stats, and 2% is (dmg to mob)*1.02 right?

[Elminster]

2% only applies to ur base dmg so it will never be better than lvl/20, only better if u can reset ^^. but lets say u have 500 dmg base dmg wich u need lots and lots of str or energy to have it, for u to have a clue i have 1.2k energy and 400++ base dmg, for bk not sure if it gives a lot more base dmg with that str, but i'm almost certain wont go above 500++, correct me if i'm wrong. well 2% is 10 more base dmg only with 500 base dmg a lvl /20 item at lvl 300 will give u 15 more base dmg, so i dont think 2% will ever be better than lvl/20. But it's not that crappy option like many ppl say, unless ur an ag bk and ur base dmg is really low. With my current build and lvl lvl/20 gives me 14 more base dmg and 2% gives me 8 .. thats 6 base dmg dif.. making all math with my current staff rise it's only around 20 dmg diference between them. For bk it's diferent i think.. 1 base dmg makes a lot more diference than for sm i think.. at least for normal skill, not sure for stab or combo.