wat u guys say

[Hunter]

say like elm or ure not ritgh.

[Elminster]

you can always make an experiment Hunt.. sell wings +hp and sell wings +dmg even if u dont have them. Then u'll see the offers. Or even better try to buy them and see what coast more.

[mattdude]

To be honest, I think that's total shit.

[Hunter]

elm , why would i pay 100 for a wing +0+0 when i can go buy a wing +0+1% cheaper ?! it is irational.

anyway most ppl think that the hp option (%) is a cm given one. so was i informed some time ago.

[tripeiro]

elm is right guys -_-

[mattdude]

hunterirc said:

elm , why would i pay 100 for a wing +0+0 when i can go buy a wing +0+1% cheaper ?! it is irational.

anyway most ppl think that the hp option (%) is a cm given one. so was i informed some time ago.

I second that.

The words 'more' and 'costs less', never ever are in he same sentance.

[Hunter]

well , u suport him but we don`t .

elm told me: a dude said that legendary set gives more defrate , that is Stupid. And so some ppl take it.

Well i am the type a dude that would preffer wing +0+1% at a lower cost than one +0+0 , damn even one +0+1% instead of one +0+0. (in a full time combo +16 option add`s an 'optimal' 192 dmg and at a 'nd wing +16 is quite spicky.

[Piggles]

Well for the sake of argument, +0+0 2nd wings are crap IMO compared to 1st wings, so +0+option are more valuable cuz they can be made into good +7/9/11 wings. And if they already have HP option, they cannot be changed to +dmg. Even if u fail JOL and they go to +0+0, u can never JOL them to +0+dmg.

At least this is what I've read a few times at muhq.

[Hunter]

Sure u can , in the server i play i failed a wing to +4% and then i made it +28.


And that explains why simple is more expensive than +hp ?

Fine lets say that ppl are paing more for wing 0+0+dmg , and less than +0+0+0 for +0+0+hp.
Is this a logical option ? the odds to make a wing +16 are afful low .

[mattdude]

Chaos even you should know by now.. MuHqers are monkeys and talk out of their arses.

[Piggles]

I'm still there as "Herstal" ^^
Notice I try to stay out of the botting threads ^^

Muhq has a lot of noobs yea... i guess i'm addicted to it tho.

[Elminster]

?? wtf u talking about? are we talking 2nd wings? what the fuk u mixing 1st wings?... 1st wings elf dont have damage option i think.. at least i never saw one and row told me that not long ago. Discussion is wings+hp recovery (not 50h) and wings +x+0.

2nd wings dont have cm value -_-. +hp recovery only means u gonna waste one jol trying to fail it to put it +0+0 and then try for dmg, if u cant see that...

and btw u can fail jol and then try for dmg.. done that in private and saw it done for others in global, and thats the reason why 2nd wings +hp are less valuable then +x+0, kuz those ppl who buy it will try fail a jol. So if u pay more when u know u have to try and fail a jol.. then ur a not very smart.. And for bk wings this applies even more kuz ppl who buy 2nd wings even +0+0 will stick with that wings for long, for sm u can buy wings +0+0 and it's just a transition period, so u could buy +hp recovery wings without the idea of joling them, doesnt mean that u would pay more for wings +dmg, but i guess u would pay the same for +hp or +0+0 since ur 1st idea is not joling, but that is only real for wings+7+x kuz for wings +9+x i think most of ppl want to have dmg since those wings will be in use for long time, so in general wings +hp recovery will always have lower price than with+0 option, or at least will be harder to sell for same price. Well u can check at muhq and watch how to posts with wings +dmg develope and wings+h+ recovery do bad.. normay nobody bids minimum bid for those wings and with +dmg is a dog eat dog, everybody wants the wings. Oh and btw trying to sell +3hp or even worst +4hp recovery it's a bitch.. kuz when u reach the top option u cant put jol no more so if u get wings till +4hp then ur screwed they will be +4hp forever. So i guess wings with +4Hp are a no no for buyers unless they have really really good discount.

I also heard some ppl saying that with Kalima +hp starts to be more valuable than +dmg, dunno if it's true or not, only saw 2 ppl saying this at muhq, but if it's true we might see a shift on the trend.

[Elminster]

hunterirc said:

elm , why would i pay 100 for a wing +0+0 when i can go buy a wing +0+1% cheaper ?! it is irational.

anyway most ppl think that the hp option (%) is a cm given one. so was i informed some time ago.

what is so dificult to understand? If u want +dmg wich is wat 99,999% of ppl on mu wants if u buy with +hp means u need to waste 1 jol more to fail to +0+0 and then try for +dmg. That's pretty simple. Your logic only applies when someone buys wings not thinking on upgrading it.. well maybe thats true for wings sm+0+0, prolly the guy just make it +7+0 but for bk correct me if i'm wrong, ppl that waste 80b for wings +0+0 are not thinking as a temporary solution so prolly 90% of them will try to make it +x+8/12 at least, so if u got hp recovery in ur wings means 1 more jol u have to put at least trying to fail it. In overall wings+hp recovery are cheaper than wings +dmg, if it's not true for all situations it's true for the major part.

Already said this in the above post.. i'm talking about 2nd wings not 1st wings.
1st wings it's diferent since elf wings dont have dmg and dw / dk wings dont have hp. So of course the best is to have the option -_-.
If u dont understand what i said... well it's kuz u dont want to understand.. like i said it's not an opinion.. it's like market is.. at least it was what i find it to be when i was chekin market for my wings. +hp recovery are real hard to sell, nobody wants them.

[Hunter]

what the fuk ?

READ the faking post , we are talking about wing 0+0+hp at lower price than one +0+0+0 , no one said that wing hp is better than dmg or more expensive !

We never compared the price or quality of a wing +hp versus one +dmg . YES DMG IS BETTER.

Test :
wing +0+0+1% 90b
wing +0+0+0 100b
wing+0+0+4 dmg 110b

what wing to u chose ? i know i`ll buy one +hp istead of a simple one and do my best to fail it or if i don`t , even better a wing +2/3/4% is good also.

[Elminster]

You need some lessons in english i think.. It's u who should read the post.